רוצח גופיה מנא לן?
סברא הוא.
דההוא דאתא לקמיה דרבה ואמר ליה: אמר לי מרי דוראי:
זיל קטליה לפלניא ואי לא קטלינא לך! אמר ליה: לקטלוך ולא תיקטול -
מי יימר דדמא דידך סומק טפי?
דילמא דמא דהוא גברא סומק טפי.
The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this halakha with regard to a murderer himself, that one must allow himself to be killed rather than commit murder?
The Gemara answers: It is based on logical reasoning that one life is not preferable to another, and therefore there is no need for a verse to teach this halakha.
The Gemara relates an incident to demonstrate this: As when a certain person came before Rabba and said to him: The lord of my place, a local official, said to me: Go kill so-and-so, and if not I will kill you, what shall I do?
Rabba said to him: It is preferable that he should kill you and you should not kill. Who is to say that your blood is redder than his, that your life is worth more than the one he wants you to kill? Perhaps that man’s blood is redder.
This logical reasoning is the basis for the halakha that one may not save his own life by killing another.
בעו מיניה מר' אמי:
בן נח מצווה על קדושת השם או אין מצווה על קדושת השם?
אמר אביי: ת"ש שבע מצות נצטוו בני נח ואם איתא תמני הויין.
א"ל רבא: אינהו וכל אבזרייהו.
מאי הוי עלה?
אמר רב אדא בר אהבה אמרי בי רב: כתיב (מלכים ב ה, יח) לדבר הזה יסלח ה' לעבדך בבא אדני בית רמון להשתחות שמה והוא נשען על ידי והשתחויתי,
וכתיב (מלכים ב ה, יט) ויאמר לו לך לשלום.
The Sages raised a dilemma before Rabbi Ami: Is a descendant of Noah, who is commanded to refrain from idol worship, also commanded about the sanctification of God’s name, or is he not commanded about the sanctification of God’s name? Abaye says: Come and hear an answer to this question from a baraita in which it was taught: Descendants of Noah were commanded to observe seven mitzvot: To establish courts of law, to refrain from cursing God, idol worship, adultery, bloodshed, robbery, and from eating the limb of a living animal. And if it is so that they are commanded about the sanctification of God’s name, then there would be eight mitzvot in which they are commanded.
Rava said to him: There is no proof from here, as when the baraita speaks of seven mitzvot it means the seven mitzvot themselves with all their associated [avzaraihu] obligations. The mitzva to sanctify God’s name can be understood as a detail of the prohibition of idolatry.
The Gemara asks: What halakhic conclusion was reached about this matter?
Rav Adda bar Ahava says that they say in the school of Rav: It is written that Naaman, commander of the army of the king of Aram, said to the prophet Elisha: “For this matter may the Lord pardon your servant, that when my master goes into the house of Rimmon to bow down there and he leans on my hand, and I bow myself down in the house of Rimmon” (II Kings 5:18). That is, he was forced to bow down before an idol out of fear of his master, the king of Aram. And it is written in the following verse: “And he said to him: Go in peace,” indicating that Elisha did not criticize him for acting in this manner.
אמר רב יהודה אמר רב:
מעשה באדם אחד שנתן עיניו באשה אחת והעלה לבו טינא ובאו ושאלו לרופאים ואמרו:
אין לו תקנה עד שתבעל.
אמרו חכמים: ימות ואל תבעל לו.
תעמוד לפניו ערומה?
ימות ואל תעמוד לפניו ערומה.
תספר עמו מאחורי הגדר?
ימות ולא תספר עמו מאחורי הגדר.
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חד אמר אשת איש היתה
וחד אמר פנויה היתה.
בשלמא למאן דאמר אשת איש היתה שפיר אלא למ"ד פנויה היתה מאי כולי האי?
רב פפא אמר: משום פגם משפחה.
רב אחא בריה דרב איקא אמר:
כדי שלא יהו בנות ישראל פרוצות בעריות.
ולינסבה מינסב?
לא מייתבה דעתיה, כדר' יצחק
דא"ר יצחק: מיום שחרב בית המקדש ניטלה טעם ביאה וניתנה לעוברי עבירה שנאמר (משלי ט, יז) מים גנובים ימתקו ולחם סתרים ינעם:
Apropos the discussion of the obligation to allow oneself to be killed rather than engage in forbidden sexual intercourse, the Gemara notes that Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: There was an incident involving a certain man who set his eyes upon a certain woman and passion rose in his heart, to the point that he became deathly ill. And they came and asked doctors what was to be done with him. And the doctors said: He will have no cure until she engages in sexual intercourse with him.
The Sages said: Let him die, and she may not engage in sexual intercourse with him. The doctors said: She should at least stand naked before him.
The Sages said: Let him die, and she may not stand naked before him.
The doctors suggested: The woman should at least converse with him behind a fence in a secluded area, so that he should derive a small amount of pleasure from the encounter.
The Sages insisted: Let him die, and she may not converse with him behind a fence. The Gemara comments: Rabbi Ya’akov bar Idi and Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani disagree about this issue.
One of them says: The woman in question was a married woman, and the other one says: She was unmarried.
The Gemara tries to clarify the issue: Granted, according to the one who says that she was a married woman, the matter is properly understood. Since the case involved a severely prohibited forbidden relationship, the Sages did not allow any activity hinting at intimacy. But according to the one who says that she was unmarried, what is the reason for all this opposition? Why did the Sages say that the man must be allowed to die, rather than have the woman do as was requested?
Rav Pappa says: This is due to the potential family flaw, i.e., harm to the family name, as it is not permitted to bring disgrace to the entire family in order to save the lovesick man.
Rav Aḥa, son of Rav Ika, says: This is so that the daughters of Israel should not be promiscuous with regard to forbidden sexual relations. Were they to listen to the doctors’ recommendations, Jewish women might lose moral restraint.
The Gemara asks: But if the woman was unmarried, let the man marry her.
The Gemara answers: His mind would not have been eased by marriage, in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Yitzḥak. As Rabbi Yitzḥak says: Since the day the Temple was destroyed, sexual pleasure was taken away from those who engage in permitted intercourse and given to transgressors, as it is stated: “Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant” (Proverbs 9:17). Therefore, the man could have been cured only by engaging in illicit sexual interaction.