אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן דַּהֲבַאי אַרְבָּעָה דְּבָרִים סָחוּ לִי מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת חִיגְּרִין מִפְּנֵי מָה הָוְיִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוֹפְכִים אֶת שׁוּלְחָנָם אִילְּמִים מִפְּנֵי מָה הָוְיִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמְּנַשְּׁקִים עַל אוֹתוֹ מָקוֹם חֵרְשִׁים מִפְּנֵי מָה הָוְיִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמְסַפְּרִים בִּשְׁעַת תַּשְׁמִישׁ סוֹמִין מִפְּנֵי מָה הָוְיִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמִּסְתַּכְּלִים בְּאוֹתוֹ מָקוֹם וּרְמִינְהוּ שָׁאֲלוּ אֶת אִימָּא שָׁלוֹם מִפְּנֵי מָה בָּנַיִךְ יְפֵיפִין בְּיוֹתֵר אָמְרָה לָהֶן אֵינוֹ מְסַפֵּר עִמִּי לֹא בִּתְחִלַּת הַלַּיְלָה וְלֹא בְּסוֹף הַלַּיְלָה אֶלָּא בַּחֲצוֹת הַלַּיְלָה וּכְשֶׁהוּא מְסַפֵּר מְגַלֶּה טֶפַח וּמְכַסֶּה טֶפַח וְדוֹמֶה עָלָיו כְּמִי שֶׁכְּפָאוֹ שֵׁד וְאָמַרְתִּי לוֹ מָה טַעַם וְאָמַר לִי כְּדֵי שֶׁלֹּא אֶתֵּן אֶת עֵינַי בְּאִשָּׁה אַחֶרֶת וְנִמְצְאוּ בָּנָיו בָּאִין לִידֵי מַמְזֵרוּת לָא קַשְׁיָא הָא בְּמִילֵּי דְתַשְׁמִישׁ הָא בְּמִילֵּי אַחְרָנְיָיתָא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן זוֹ דִּבְרֵי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן דַּהֲבַאי אֲבָל אָמְרוּ חֲכָמִים אֵין הֲלָכָה כְּיוֹחָנָן בֶּן דַּהֲבַאי אֶלָּא כֹּל מַה שֶּׁאָדָם רוֹצֶה לַעֲשׂוֹת בְּאִשְׁתּוֹ עוֹשֶׂה מָשָׁל לְבָשָׂר הַבָּא מִבֵּית הַטַּבָּח רָצָה לְאׇכְלוֹ בְּמֶלַח אוֹכְלוֹ צָלִי אוֹכְלוֹ מְבוּשָּׁל אוֹכְלוֹ שָׁלוּק אוֹכְלוֹ וְכֵן דָּג הַבָּא מִבֵּית הַצַּיָּיד אָמַר אַמֵּימָר מַאן מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת רַבָּנַן דְּאִי תֵּימָא מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת מַמָּשׁ אַמַּאי אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אֵין הֲלָכָה כְּיוֹחָנָן בֶּן דַּהֲבַאי הָא אִינְהוּ בְּקִיאִי בְּצוּרַת הַוָּלָד טְפֵי וְאַמַּאי קָרוּ לְהוּ מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת דִּמְצַיְּינִי כְּמַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת הַהִיא דַּאֲתַאי לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי אָמְרָה לוֹ רַבִּי עָרַכְתִּי לוֹ שׁוּלְחָן וַהֲפָכוֹ אֲמַר לָהּ בִּתִּי תּוֹרָה הִתִּירָתֶךְ וַאֲנִי מָה אֶעֱשֶׂה לִיךְ הָהִיא דַּאֲתַאי לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב אָמְרָה לוֹ רַבִּי עָרַכְתִּי לוֹ שׁוּלְחָן וַהֲפָכוֹ אָמַר מַאי שְׁנָא מִן בִּינִיתָא וְלֹא תָתוּרוּ אַחֲרֵי לְבַבְכֶם מִכָּאן אָמַר רַבִּי אַל יִשְׁתֶּה אָדָם בְּכוֹס זֶה וְיִתֵּן עֵינָיו בְּכוֹס אַחֵר אָמַר רָבִינָא לֹא נִצְרְכָא אֶלָּא דַּאֲפִילּוּ שְׁתֵּי נָשָׁיו וּבָרוֹתִי מִכֶּם
§ Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Dehavai said: The ministering angels told me four matters: For what reason do lame people come into existence? It is because their fathers overturn their tables, i.e., they engage in sexual intercourse in an atypical way. For what reason do mute people come into existence? It is because their fathers kiss that place of nakedness. For what reason do deaf people come into existence? It is because their parents converse while engaging in sexual intercourse. For what reason do blind people come into existence? It is because their fathers stare at that place. And the Gemara raises a contradiction: Imma Shalom, the wife of Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus, was asked: For what reason are your children so beautiful? She said to them: My husband does not converse with me while engaging in sexual intercourse, neither at the beginning of the night nor at the end of the night, but rather at midnight. And when he converses with me while engaging in sexual intercourse, he reveals a handbreadth of my body and covers a handbreadth, and he covers himself up as though he were being coerced by a demon and is covering himself out of fear. And I said to my husband: What is the reason for this behavior? And he said to me: It is so that I will not set my eyes on another woman, i.e., think about another woman; if a man thinks about another woman during sexual intercourse with his wife, his children consequently come close to receiving a mamzer status, i.e., the nature of their souls is tantamount to that of a mamzer. Therefore I engage in sexual intercourse with you at an hour when there are no people in the street, and in this manner. In any event, it can be seen from her words that a Sage conversed with his wife while engaging in sexual intercourse with her. The Gemara answers: This is not difficult. This permission to converse with her is with regard to matters of sexual intercourse, whereas that restriction of conversation is with regard to other matters that are not related to sexual intercourse. Rabbi Yoḥanan said: That is the statement of Yoḥanan ben Dehavai. However, the Rabbis said: The halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Yoḥanan ben Dehavai. Rather, whatever a man wishes to do with his wife he may do. He may engage in sexual intercourse with her in any manner that he wishes, and need not concern himself with these restrictions. As an allegory, it is like meat that comes from the butcher. If he wants to eat it with salt, he may eat it that way. If he wants to eat it roasted, he may eat it roasted. If he wants to eat it cooked, he may eat it cooked. If he wants to eat it boiled, he may eat it boiled. And likewise with regard to fish that come from the fisherman. Ameimar said: Who are the ministering angels that Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Dehavai mentioned? He was referring to the Sages, for whom he employed the honorary title: Ministering angels. Because if you say that he was referring to actual ministering angels, why did Rabbi Yoḥanan say that the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Yoḥanan ben Dehavai? The ministering angels are more knowledgeable about the forming of the fetus than people are. Clearly, if the ministering angels were the source for the ruling of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Dehavai it would have been imperative to heed his instructions. And why are the Sages called ministering angels? Because they stand out like ministering angels, as they are recognized by their clothing. The Gemara relates: A certain woman, who came before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi to complain about her husband, said to him: My teacher, I set him a table, using a euphemism to say that she lay before him during intimacy, and he turned it over. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said to her: My daughter, the Torah permitted him to engage in sexual intercourse with you even in an atypical manner, and what can I do for you if he does so? Similarly, a certain woman who came before Rav said to him: My teacher, I set a table for him and he turned it over. He said to her: In what way is this case different from a fish [binnita] that one may eat any way he wishes? § The verse states: “And that you not go about after your own heart” (Numbers 15:39). Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said that it is derived from here that a man should not drink from this cup while setting his eyes on another cup, i.e., one should not engage in sexual intercourse with one woman while thinking about another woman. Ravina said: This statement is not necessary with regard to an unrelated woman. Rather, it is necessary only to state that even with regard to his own two wives, he should not engage in sexual intercourse with one while thinking about the other.
The Gemara relates that Rabbi Ila was ascending the stairs in the house of Rabba bar Sheila, a children’s teacher. He heard a child who was reading a verse out loud: “For, lo, He Who forms the mountains, and creates the wind, and declares to man what is his speech” (Amos 4:13). Rabbi Ila said: With regard to a servant whose master declares to him what is his proper speech, is there a remedy for him? The Gemara asks. What is the meaning of the phrase: “What is his speech”? Rav said: Even frivolous speech that is between a man and his wife before engaging in relations is declared to a person at the time of death, and he will have to account for it. The Gemara asks: Is that so? Is it prohibited for a man to speak in this manner with his wife? Wasn’t Rav Kahana lying beneath Rav’s bed, and he heard Rav chatting and laughing with his wife, and performing his needs, i.e., having relations with her. Rav Kahana said out loud: The mouth of Rav is like one who has never eaten a cooked dish, i.e., his behavior is lustful. Rav said to him: Kahana, leave, as this is not proper conduct. This shows that Rav himself engaged in frivolous talk before relations.
When you and your wife are engaged in sexual union do not behave lightheartedly and regard this act as vain, idle, improper. Therefore, first introduce her into the mood with gentle words that excite her emotion, appease her mind and delight her with joy. Thus you unite your mind and intention with hers. Say to her words which in part arouse in her passion, closeness, love, will, and erotic desire, and in part evoke in her reverence for God, piety and modesty...Never impose yourself upon her nor force her. For any sexual union without an abundance of passion, love and will, is without the Divine Presence. Do not quarrel with her nor act violently whenever coitus is involved. The Talmud says, "A lion ravishes and then eats and has no shame. So acts the brute: He hits and then cohabits and has no shame." Rather, court and attract her to you first with gracious and seductive, as well as refined and gentle words, so that both your intentions be for the sake of God...Do not hurry in arousing passion. Prolong till she is ready and in a passionate mood. Approach her lovingly and passionately, so that she reaches her orgasm first.
וְהָא תָּמָר בְּבִיאָה רִאשׁוֹנָה אִיעַבַּרָא! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: תָּמָר בְּאֶצְבַּע מִעֲכָה. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק: כׇּל מוֹעֹכוֹת שֶׁל בֵּית רַבִּי — תָּמָר שְׁמָן, וְלָמָּה נִקְרָא שְׁמָן תָּמָר — עַל שֵׁם תָּמָר שֶׁמִּעֲכָה בְּאֶצְבָּעָהּ. וְהָא הֲווֹ עֵר וְאוֹנָן! עֵר וְאוֹנָן שִׁמְּשׁוּ שֶׁלֹּא כְּדַרְכָּן. מֵיתִיבִי: כׇּל עֶשְׂרִים וְאַרְבָּעָה חֹדֶשׁ דָּשׁ מִבִּפְנִים וְזוֹרֶה מִבַּחוּץ, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: הַלָּלוּ אֵינוֹ אֶלָּא כְּמַעֲשֵׂה עֵר וְאוֹנָן! כְּמַעֲשֵׂה עֵר וְאוֹנָן, וְלֹא כְּמַעֲשֵׂה עֵר וְאוֹנָן. כְּמַעֲשֵׂה עֵר וְאוֹנָן, דִּכְתִיב: ״וְהָיָה אִם בָּא אֶל אֵשֶׁת אָחִיו וְשִׁחֵת אַרְצָה״. וְלֹא כְּמַעֲשֵׂה עֵר וְאוֹנָן, דְּאִילּוּ הָתָם שֶׁלֹּא כְּדַרְכָּהּ, וְהָכָא כְּדַרְכָּהּ. בִּשְׁלָמָא אוֹנָן, דִּכְתִיב בֵּיהּ ״וְשִׁחֵת אַרְצָה״, אֶלָּא עֵר מְנָלַן? אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: דִּכְתִיב ״וַיָּמֶת גַּם אוֹתוֹ״, אַף הוּא בְּאוֹתָהּ מִיתָה מֵת. בִּשְׁלָמָא אוֹנָן, מִשּׁוּם ״לֹּא לוֹ יִהְיֶה הַזָּרַע״, אֶלָּא עֵר מַאי טַעְמָא עֲבַד הָכִי? כְּדֵי שֶׁלֹּא תִּתְעַבֵּר וְיַכְחִישׁ יָפְיָהּ. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״אוֹתָהּ״, פְּרָט לְכַלָּה, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי יְהוּדָה. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: פְּרָט לְשֶׁלֹּא כְּדַרְכָּהּ. אֲמַר לֵיהּ הוּן בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן לְרַב נַחְמָן: לֵימָא קָא סָבַר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה הַתּוֹרָה חָסָה עַל תַּכְשִׁיטֵי כַלָּה? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לְפִי שֶׁאֵין אִשָּׁה מִתְעַבֶּרֶת מִבִּיאָה רִאשׁוֹנָה. בְּמַאי קָמִיפַּלְגִי — רַבָּנַן סָבְרִי: ״שִׁכְבַת זָרַע״, פְּרָט לְהַעֲרָאָה. ״אוֹתָהּ״, פְּרָט לְשֶׁלֹּא כְּדַרְכָּהּ. וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה סָבַר: שֶׁלֹּא כְּדַרְכָּהּ וְהַעֲרָאָה מִ״שִּׁכְבַת זָרַע״ נָפְקָא.
But didn’t Tamar become pregnant from the first act of intercourse, despite the fact that she was a virgin at the time of her sexual act with Judah? Rav Naḥman said: Tamar broke her hymen with her finger prior to intercourse, and it is due to this that she became pregnant from the first act of intercourse, as Rabbi Yitzḥak said: All of those women from the household of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi who break their hymens are named Tamar by nickname. And why are they named Tamar? They are called this on account of Tamar, who broke her hymen with her finger. The Gemara wonders about the proof from Tamar itself: But weren’t there Er and Onan, her previous husbands, who presumably engaged in sexual intercourse with her? The Gemara responds: Er and Onan engaged in sexual intercourse in an atypical manner, i.e., anal intercourse, and therefore she was still a virgin. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: After a woman gives birth, her husband penetrates inside and spills his semen outside for the entire twenty-four months during which the baby is breastfeeding, so that his wife not become pregnant, as that would terminate her milk production and the child might die. This is the statement of Rabbi Eliezer. They said to him: These acts are nothing other than acts similar to those of Er and Onan, which are prohibited. Regardless, it can be deduced from here that Er and Onan engaged in normative sexual intercourse with Tamar, only they did not fully complete the sexual act. The Gemara answers: The Tosefta actually means that what they did was similar to the act of Er and Onan in some ways, but not similar to the act of Er and Onan in other ways. The Gemara elaborates: It was similar to the act of Er and Onan in that there was a spilling of semen, as it is written: “And it came to pass when he had intercourse with his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground” (Genesis 38:9). Yet it was not similar to the act of Er and Onan, as there Er and Onan engaged in sexual intercourse in an atypical manner, i.e., anal intercourse, while here the Tosefta is referring to sexual intercourse in a typical manner. The Gemara continues to clarify what took place: Granted, Onan engaged in unnatural sexual intercourse with her, as it is written with regard to his act: “That he spilled it on the ground” (Genesis 38:9). However, from where do we derive that Er engaged in unnatural sexual intercourse with her? Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: As it is written with regard to Onan: “And He slew him also” (Genesis 38:10). This indicates that he, too, died the same death for performing the same transgression as his brother. The Gemara asks: Granted, Onan engaged in anal intercourse because he did not want Tamar to give birth as “he knew that the seed would not be his” (Genesis 38:9). However, with regard to Er, what is the reason he acted in this way? The Gemara responds: He did so in order that she not become pregnant and become less beautiful as a result of her pregnancy. The Sages taught: The verse states: “And the woman, with whom a man shall lie giving seed, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening” (Leviticus 15:18). The extra term “with whom” comes to exclude a bride who does not become ritually impure; this is the statement of Rabbi Yehuda. And the Rabbis say: It excludes the case of sexual intercourse performed in an atypical manner. Hon, son of Rav Naḥman, said to Rav Naḥman: Shall we say that Rabbi Yehuda holds: The Torah spared a bride’s adornments, including her make-up, and therefore exempted her from submersion in water, as that might cause them ruin? Rav Naḥman said to him: That is not the reason. Rather, it is because a woman does not become pregnant from the first act of intercourse. Therefore, that act of intercourse would not cause ritual impurity, as it is not considered intercourse that can result in the implanting of seed. The Gemara asks: With regard to what do Rabbi Yehuda and the Rabbis disagree? The Rabbis hold that the phrase “giving seed” excludes the initial stage of intercourse, during which there is no emission of semen. And the extra phrase “with whom” excludes intercourse that is performed in an atypical way. Rabbi Yehuda, on the other hand, holds that the exclusion of both atypical sexual intercourse and the initial stage of intercourse were derived from the phrase “giving seed,” as neither of these are sexual acts that might bring about the birth of a seed, i.e., a child.
ואר"י דהתם מיירי בלא הוצאת זרע דשרי דכיון דליכא השחתת זרע לא הוי כמעשה ער ואונן עוד אמר ר"י דלא חשוב כמעשה ער ואונן אלא כשמתכוין להשחית זרע ורגיל לעשות כן תמיד אבל באקראי בעלמא ומתאוה לבא על אשתו שלא כדרכה שרי כדאמרי' בנדרים (דף כ:) כל מה שאדם רוצה לעשות באשתו יעשה משל לבשר הבא מן הטבח ודג מן הציד רצה אוכלו צלי רצה אוכלו מבושל רצה שלוק:
Rabeinu Yitzchok responds that there it is permitted because there is no spilled seed and therefore it is not comparable to the act of Er and Onen. Another explanation by Rabeinu Yitzchok (Ri), that it is not considered an act of Er and Onen unless the intention was to destroy the seed, and this was a regular occurance. However, if it is just something that happens occasionally, and it fulfills a desire to be with his wife Shelo Kedarka, it is permitted, as it is stated (Nedarim 20B), whatever a person want to do with his wife he is permitted...
A man’s wife is permitted to him, therefore, he may act with her in any manner whatsoever. He may have intercourse with her whenever he so desires and kiss any organ of her body he wishes, and he may have intercourse with her naturally or unnaturally [traditionally, this refers to anal and oral sex], provided that he does not expend semen to no purpose. Nevertheless, it is an attribute of piety that a man should not act in this matter with levity and that he should sanctify himself at the time of intercourse.
ובלבד שלא יוציא וכו’: בנדה פרק כל היד (יג ע”א) אמר רבי יוחנן כל המוציא שכבת זרע לבטלה חייב מיתה שנאמר וירע בעיני ה’ אשר עשה וימת גם אותו. ואמרו שהיה דש מבפנים וזורה מבחוץ.
In Tractate Nidah it states "Rabbi Yochanan said, "whoever wastes their seed is worthy of the death penalty, as it states 'and it was very bad in the eyes of G-d that which he did and he too dies.'" However this is different because there they retracted from within and spilled their seed outside.
ומה שאמר רבי יוחנן אין הלכה כרבי יוחנן בן דהבאי אלא כל מה שאדם רוצה לעשות באשתו עושה משל לדג הבא מן הצייד וכו’, דמשמע שמותר לעשות כן לכתחילה, נראה לי שאינו אלא על הפיכת השולחן בלבד.
And Rabbi Yochanan’s statement that the law is not like Rabbi Yochanan ben Dahavai, but instead that whatever a man wants to do with his wife, he may do, similar to a fish brought by the fisherman etc., which implies that it is fully permitted to do this – it seems to me that this only refers to “upturning the table” (i.e., vaginal intercourse performed in atypical positions) alone
(יא) לפיכך אע"ג דקיי"ל [שם] דכל מה שאדם רוצה לעשות באשתו עושה כשהיא טהורה, בועל בכל עת שירצה ומנשק בכל אבר שירצה ובא עליה בין בדרכה ובין שלא כדרכה או דרך אברים ובלבד שלא יוציא זרע לבטלה [טור] – מ"מ השם אורחותיו אין לו לעשות כן אלא ישמש במקום שראוי ליזרע ולהוליד דא"א להזהר שלא יוציא זרע לבטלה וכמה חמור עון זה. ואף שיש מקילים גם בכה"ג כשעושה באקראי ואינו רגיל בכך, אבל קשה לומר כן [ב"י] ושומר נפשו ירחק מזה, וכל המקדש עצמו במותר לו קדוש יאמר לו [דברי הב"ש סק"ב תמוהים].
...Therefore, even though we have established that whatever a man wants to do with his wife, he may do when she is in a state of purity – he may have intercourse anytime he wants, kiss any part of her body, and have intercourse vaginally, anally, or “by way of her limbs”- as long as he does not spill seed for no purpose – nevertheless, someone who is careful about his practices should not do this; rather he should have intercourse in the place on her body where it is possible that she will conceive and from which she gives birth, for it is impossible that otherwise he will not spill seed for no purpose, and this is a very serious sin. Although there are those who are lenient also in this matter when it is done occasionally and he is not accustomed to doing it – it nonetheless is difficult to say this and a person who guards his soul will distance himself from it, and anyone who sanctifies himself by refraining from doing that which is permitted is called a holy person.
לא ניתנה תורה למלאכי השרת
Yoma 30A
The Torah was not given to angels.