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Gone is the Joy of our Hearts: Eicha 5:14-15
(יד) זְקֵנִים֙ מִשַּׁ֣עַר שָׁבָ֔תוּ בַּחוּרִ֖ים מִנְּגִינָתָֽם׃ (טו) שָׁבַת֙ מְשׂ֣וֹשׂ לִבֵּ֔נוּ נֶהְפַּ֥ךְ לְאֵ֖בֶל מְחֹלֵֽנוּ׃
(14) The old men are gone from the gate, The young men from their music. (15) Gone is the joy of our hearts; Our dancing is turned into mourning.

(14) "The old men are gone from the gate, The young men from their music (Lamentations 5:14)": Rabbi Abba son of Rabbi Jeremiah said: "They stopped from their singing".

(15) "Gone is the joy of our hearts (Lamentations 5:15)": Rabbi Chisda said: "At first when there was fear of the Sanhedrin over Israel they did not speak an offensive thing in song, but when they abolished the Sanhedrin, they said offensive things in song". Rabbi Jose the son of Rabbi Avin in the name of Rabbi Chisda said: "At first when trouble came upon Israel they stopped their joy because of that, and when they abolished the Sanhedrin, they abolished singing from the banquet house, as it is said: "They drink their wine without song (Isaiah 24:9)". Since this and that have been abolished: "Gone is the joy of our hearts; our dancing is turned into mourning".

Discussion Questions

  1. Eicha/Lamentations describes a dark world. What is the darkness that is described in these verses and their commentary? What emotions are involved?
  2. Can you imagine a world without song and dance? Why do you think that specific prohibition brings about mourning?
  3. Can you find anything redeeming or hopeful about this text?