Shabbat 80bשבת פ׳ ב
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80bפ׳ ב

תנו רבנן המוציא שיער כדי לגבל בו את הטיט [טיט] לעשות פי כור של צורפי זהב:

The Sages taught: One who carries out hair is liable in a measure equivalent to that which is used to knead clay with it, as hair would be mixed with clay to reinforce it. The measure that determines liability for carrying out clay is if it is sufficient to make an opening for the bellows to be placed in a gold refiners’ crucible.

סיד כדי לסוד: תנא כדי לסוד אצבע קטנה שבבנות אמר רב יהודה אמר רב בנות ישראל שהגיעו לפירקן ולא הגיעו [לשנים] בנות עניים טופלות אותן בסיד בנות עשירים טופלות אותן בסולת בנות מלכים טופלות אותן בשמן המור שנאמר ששה חדשים בשמן המור מאי שמן המור רב הונא בר חייא אמר סטכת רב ירמיה בר אבא אמר שמן זית שלא הביאה שליש תניא רבי יהודה אומר אנפיקנון שמן זית שלא הביאה שליש ולמה סכין אותו שמשיר את השיער ומעדן הבשר

We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out lime is equivalent to that which is used to spread as a depilatory on the smallest of girls. A tanna taught in a Tosefta: In a measure equivalent to that which is used to spread on the finger of the smallest of girls, who would use lime to soften and pamper the skin. Rav Yehuda said that Rav said that initially, lime was used for a different purpose. It was used for daughters of Israel who reached physical maturity, but had not yet reached the age of maturity, and women who sought to remove hair for cosmetic purposes. They would smear daughters of the poor with lime; they would smear daughters of the wealthy with fine flour; they would smear daughters of kings with shemen hamor, as it was stated: “For so were the days of their anointing filled, six months with shemen hamor (Esther 2:12). The Gemara asks: What is shemen hamor? Rav Huna bar Ḥiyya said: Setaket. Rav Yirmeya bar Abba said: It is olive oil extracted from an olive that has not yet reached a third of its growth; the acidic oil is effective as a depilatory. It was taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yehuda says that anfiknon is olive oil from an olive that has not reached a third of its growth. And why is it spread on the body? Because it removes the hair and pampers the skin.

רב ביבי הויא ליה ברתא טפלה אבר אבר שקל בה ארבע מאות זוזי הוה ההוא גוי בשבבותיה הויא ליה ברתא טפלה בחד זימנא ומתה אמר קטל רב ביבי לברתי אמר רב נחמן רב ביבי דשתי שיכרא בעיין בנתיה טפלא אנן דלא שתינן שיכרא לא בעיין בנתן טפלא:

With regard to lime, the Gemara relates: Rav Beivai had a daughter. He smeared her with lime limb by limb and, as a result, she became so beautiful that when marrying her off, he received four hundred zuz in gifts for her beyond her dowry. There was a certain gentile in Rav Beivai’s neighborhood. He had a daughter and wanted to do the same. He smeared her entire body with lime at one time and she died. He said: Rav Beivai killed my daughter. Rav Naḥman said: Rav Beivai, who drinks beer, his daughters require that they be smeared with lime, as beer causes hair growth; we, who do not drink beer, our daughters do not require that they be smeared with lime.

רבי יהודה אומר כדי לסוד כלכול מאי כלכול ומאי אנדיפי אמר רב צידעא ובת צידעא למימרא דשיעורא דרבי יהודה נפיש הא קיימא לן דשיעורא דרבנן נפיש זוטא מדרבנן ונפיש מדרבי נחמיה מיתיבי אמר רבי נראין דברי רבי יהודה בחבוט ודברי רבי נחמיה בביצת הסיד ואי סלקא דעתך צידעא ובת צידעא אידי ואידי חבוט אלא אמר רבי יצחק אמרי דבי רבי אמי אאנדיפא

We learned in the mishna: Rabbi Yehuda says: An amount equivalent to that which is used to spread on the hair that grows over the temple [kilkul] so that it will lie flat. Rabbi Neḥemya says: An amount equivalent to that which is used to spread on the temple [andifi] to remove fine hairs. The Gemara asks: What is kilkul and what is andifi? Rav said: The temple and the area beneath the temple. The Gemara asks: Is that to say that the measure of Rabbi Yehuda is greater? Don’t we maintain that the measure of the Rabbis is greater? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yehuda’s measure is smaller than that of the Rabbis and greater than the measure of Rabbi Neḥemya. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita where Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said: The statement of Rabbi Yehuda and his measure appear to be correct with regard to dissolved lime, and the statement of Rabbi Neḥemya appears to be correct with regard to blocks of lime. And if it should enter your mind that these terms refer to the temple and the area beneath the temple, both that which is spread on this, kilkul, and that which is spread on that, andifi, are referring to dissolved lime. Rather, Rabbi Yitzḥak said that the school of Rabbi Ami said: When Rav Neḥemya said andifi he meant a’andifa, meaning the lime which was spread on the inside of earthenware vessels containing wine.

מתקיף לה רב כהנא וכי אדם עושה מעותיו אנפרות אלא אמר רב כהנא שנתות כדתנן שנתות היו בהין עד כאן לפר עד כאן לאיל עד כאן לכבש ואיבעית אימא מאי אנדיפא אפותא וכי הא דההוא בר גליל [דאיקלע לבבל ] דאמרו ליה קום דרוש לנו במעשה מרכבה אמר להו אדרוש לכו כדדרש רבי נחמיה לחבריה ונפקא ערעיתא מן כותל ומחתיה באנדיפי ומית ואמרו ליה מן דיליה דא ליה:

Rav Kahana strongly objected to this: And does a person turn his money into a loss [anparot]? In doing so, he ruins both the lime and the wine. Rather, Rav Kahana said: This lime is not placed inside the vessel, but it is used to make markings on the outside of the vessel to measure the contents of the vessel, as we learned in a mishna: In the Temple, there were markings on the hin vessel to measure wine. These would indicate that when it is filled to here, that is the measure of wine required for the libation of the sacrifice of an ox, half a hin; when it is filled to here, the measure of wine required for the libation of the sacrifice of a ram, a third of a hin; when it is filled to here, the measure of wine required for the libation of the sacrifice of a sheep, a quarter of a hin. And if you wish, say instead: What is andifa? It is the forehead upon which lime is smeared, not to remove hairs, but to pamper and soften the skin. Thick lime can be used for this purpose. And proof for that is cited from a certain Galilean who happened to come to Babylonia, to whom they said: Stand and teach us the esoteric Act of the Divine Chariot [Ma’aseh Merkava]. He said to them: I will teach it to you as Rabbi Neḥemya taught it to his colleague. And a hornet emerged from the wall and stung him on his forehead [andifi] and he died. Apparently, andifi means forehead. And with regard to the incident itself, they said about him, in a play on words: From his own, that came to him [min dilei da lei]. He was punished for his arrogance in seeking to teach Ma’aseh Merkava publicly.

מתני׳ אדמה כחותם המרצופין דברי רבי עקיבא וחכמים אומרים כחותם האיגרות זבל וחול הדק כדי לזבל קלח של כרוב דברי רבי עקיבא וחכמים אומרים כדי לזבל כרישא חול הגס כדי ליתן על מלא כף סיד קנה כדי לעשות קולמוס ואם היה עבה או מרוסס כדי לבשל בו ביצה קלה שבביצים טרופה ונתונה באילפס:

MISHNA: The measure that determines liability for carrying out earth on Shabbat is equivalent to the seal of large sacks; this is the statement of Rabbi Akiva. Earth was used to seal the openings of sacks so that any tampering would be evident. And the Rabbis say: The measure for liability is much smaller, equivalent to the seal of letters. The measure that determines liability for carrying out manure and fine sand is equivalent to that which is used to fertilize one stalk of cabbage; this is the statement of Rabbi Akiva. And the Rabbis say: The measure that determines liability for carrying it out is equivalent to that which is used to fertilize a leek, which is less than that used for cabbage. The measure that determines liability for carrying out coarse sand is equivalent to that which is used to place on a full spoon of plaster. The measure that determines liability for carrying out a reed is equivalent to that which is used to make a quill. And if the reed was thick and unfit for writing, or if it was fragmented, its measure for liability is equivalent to that which is used to cook an egg most easily cooked, one that is already beaten and placed in a stew pot.

גמ׳ על מלא כף סיד תנא כדי ליתן על פי כף של סיידין מאן תנא דחול מעלי ליה לסיד אמר רב חסדא רבי יהודה היא דתניא לא יסוד אדם את ביתו בסיד אלא אם כן עירב בו תבן או חול רבי יהודה אומר תבן מותר חול אסור מפני שהוא טרכסיד רבא אמר אפילו תימא רבנן קילקולו זהו תיקונו:

GEMARA: We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out coarse sand is equivalent to that which is used to place on a full spoon of plaster. A tanna taught in a Tosefta: An amount equivalent to that which is placed on the opening of a plasterer’s trowel, and not on a spoon used for eating. The Gemara asks: Who is the tanna who holds that sand is beneficial for plaster and is, therefore, mixed with it? Rav Ḥisda said: It is Rabbi Yehuda, as it was taught in a baraita: In mourning the destruction of the Temple, one may not plaster his house with plaster, which is white, unless he mixed straw or sand in it, which will make the color off-white and less attractive. Rabbi Yehuda says: Straw is permitted, but sand is prohibited because when mixed with plaster it forms white cement [teraksid]. Apparently, Rabbi Yehuda holds that sand is typically mixed with plaster. Rava said: Even if you say that our mishna is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis who disagree with Rabbi Yehuda, we can say that its ruination is its improvement. Even though the Rabbis hold that mixing sand with plaster is not beneficial, since following the destruction of the Temple only partially ruined plaster may be used, adding sand to plaster enables its use.

קנה כדי לעשות קולמוס: תנא קולמוס המגיע לקשרי אצבעותיו בעי רב אשי קשר העליון או קשר התחתון תיקו:

We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out a reed is equivalent to that which is used to make a quill. The size of the quill was not specified. A tanna taught in a Tosefta: This refers to a quill that reaches to the joints of one’s fingers. Rav Ashi raised a dilemma: Is this referring to the upper joint of the fingers, or the lower joint? No resolution was found to this dilemma, and therefore let it stand unresolved.

ואם היה עבה כו׳: תנא טרופה בשמן ונתונה באילפס אמר ליה מר בריה דרבינא לבריה מי שמיע לך ביצה קלה מאי היא אמר ליה ביעתא דצילצלא מאי טעמא משום דזוטרא אימא דציפרתא אישתיק אמר ליה מידי שמיע לך בהא [אמר ליה הכי] אמר רב ששת ביצת תרנגולת ומאי קרו לה ביצה קלה שיערו חכמים אין לך ביצה קלה לבשל יותר מביצת תרנגולת ומאי שנא כל שיעורי שבת כגרוגרת והכא כביצה אמר ליה הכי אמר רב נחמן כגרוגרת מביצה קלה:

We learned in the mishna: And if the reed was thick and unfit for writing, it is considered as fuel, and its measure for liability is equivalent to that which is used to cook a beaten egg. A tanna taught in a Tosefta: Beaten means beaten in oil and placed in a stew pot. Mar, son of Ravina, said to his son: Have you heard what an egg cooked easily is? He said to him: The egg of a turtledove. He asked his father: What is the reason? Is it because it is small? If so, say the egg of a sparrow. He was silent and had no explanation. He subsequently asked his father: Have you heard anything about this? He said to him that Rav Sheshet said as follows: This refers to the egg of a chicken. And what is the reason that they call it an egg cooked easily? Because the Sages estimated that there is no egg easier to cook than the egg of a chicken. He asked his father: And what is different about this measure? All measures of prohibited labors on Shabbat involving food are a dried fig-bulk, and here the measure is like an egg cooked easily? He said to him that Rav Naḥman said as follows: He is liable for carrying out a dried fig-bulk from an egg cooked easily, not the entire egg.